Nov 10, 2012 9:00am PST
? >> well, there's a couple of el elements at play. one thing is that none of this will be determined public, right? if the president and john boehner were able to get that room and hammer out a deal and just sign it maybe they can get something done. each has a lot of factions to get done. john boehner is in an interesting position given some members of his republican caucus have lost their seats and they're looking at a lame duck. so some of the things you're hearing from capitol hill now are figure out a quick fix, a patch for the end of the year, and then really sit down at the table and try to negotiate on those numbers. that $250,000 number, that's exactly the point. that could definitely slide. and that's an area where you think the white house is probably a little bit more willing to negotiate. >> what do you think ultimately this is going to come down to, perry? is it going to be who's going to blink first? >> yes. it will come down to who's going to blink first. i don't think the president is going to blink on his insistence that some taxes will go up for the wealthy. i don'